application

for me both sounds ok. the question is - who's gonna write the concept?

and is there enough time to do so before the first application date?

i could write it, but not in swedish... :)

any volunteers?

i think writing it could be a good step anyway... even if we should decide to applicate for next year.

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application!

hello everybody!

I just wanted to check with everyone if you think we should make an application for the gallery this spring, the last date to hand it in would be the 3 of May, which is quite soon. Then we would apply for a show this fall. Or do you think we should continue in this slow way and maybe wait with the application for this fall instead?

I could go either or the other way, but if we choose to try to make an application now I think we need to speed it up for a while, just to get a more clear vision for the application.

So, what does everybody think?
/jorun

I totally understand! I knew that you didn't mean it like that, I just wanted to clear it out.

I think it sounds possible for one to be a flaneur in mind! I mean, if we are trying to make a female version of the flaneur maybe historically she would have to be it in her head, I mean since women where supposed to take care of the domestic space she couldn't really walk about like the male flaneur.

It could be nice to work with the mind of the flaneur, and then if it is taking place within the mind you are able to work a lot with lies and possibilities, and thing that are not possible in the "real" world! And maybe that opens up how to work in a group? I mean, everything doesn't have to fit together, and there could be errors and unexplainable!

you're right, of course... i didn't mean to create a mentally ill character, but when i thought about a person being built by several people i came to the idea of a split character, not in a sick way but as a puzzled character... schizophrenic is not suitable at all... didn't think about that properly, sorry.... you brought up the term "memories - merorabilia" which i find very interesting.
what about the strolls we take in our own head, in our memories?
sometimes i see memories as a huge landscape inside of our brain.

can a flaneur also be someone who is travelling in his mind?

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my drawing!

Melanie; I really like your scheme for the flaneur! I find it all interesting. But I do think that we should avoid the term "schizophrenic", if you are schizofrenic you hear voice (among other things), and it is not the same thing as having multiple personalities. I think it is a very difficult thing to relate to a mental illness, and I would not be comfortible doing that in this project, I would feel that we won't be able to handle it in this format. But I do think that our different ideas will have an interesting impact on our character! Do you understand what I mean?

This is my drawing on the modules I think we could include in the exhibition/piece:

The Past: memories - memorabilia (thoughts and objects)
The Present: thing happening - actions (what we can do during the exhibition time)
The Future: the unknown - plans (what we plan and don't plan for the exhibition/piece from the first place to the next (think that will happen that we can plan and we can't)

/jorun

Mel, you asked me about "altar" thing. Well, I couldn't do it. Don't know why. I just thought it might be wrong to do the same thing as he does. And if it disturbs me…

I had a talk. Twice actually. The first time I told him that I saw the pictures he had hided in each corner of his computer. His reaction was relaxed, other than I expected. I knew I had to say more. But I couldn't. Didn't know how…

The second talk was much more complicated. I started to tell about the pictures of his ex girlfriends on the wall and that I have problems with that behave…. First he was confused. Totally. He didn't know what to say and what to think about. I told him that it would be one of my biggest fears that his picture about me could change. And I was sure to loose him because of what I was saying. But that was only the beginning of a long talk...

With the time I could say more about my feelings and he began to understand what I was trying to say. And at the end he cried and said, that this would be like a prove for my love.

I felt so much lighter after this...

And now I feel safe. Safe in a way that I know that I am able now to talk about everything. To open myself in a way I never could before. And that he understands. He's so kind and patient. I always wanted to open myself 100%, but I never could before. This is the first time. And it feels so good in one way.

Now almost all these pictures are away and that feels good. I feel so good. So much in love...

I gave him a little gift for his mishmash he needs around him. But now it's something from me.

Mel, I like your draw. You named everything what is important.

And I would like to come to the concert with you. Have to look for an outfit, but it seems a nice idea to go there dressed up as a sailor girl.

hey there, i'm happy about the development we're in. i'm really
looking forward to work toghether in reality, as well. but i also like
this experiment to discuss on a blog. and now that we'r going to a
certain direction, i think it will work, if we just keep going.


i tried to draw a scheme:


MIND OF THE FLANEUR


here all the pictures, influences, words, people, are collected. in a
very open, stream of consciousness - way. nothing rational.


could be what we collect now!


CHARACTER OF THE FLANEUR


his way of clothing, his language, his eyes, arms, legs. his character
could also be a split personality. my thought was, that if we all
become a part of him, everyone of us would be part of him, a
multiculural, split, maybe therefore schizophrenic personality.
intersting? i do think!!


could be us!


HOMEBASE OF THE FLANEUR
the place he always returns to, he doesn't lead a nomadic life. he has
a base from where he starts for his strolls. it is also the place
where he brings his trophies back.


could be the exhibition place!




CITY OF THE FLANEUR
his surrounding, the landscapes, the architecture he knows, it is his
own culutural surrounding.
his hunting ground, his field of interest.
could we say that a flaneur is hunting for details, beauty, in well
known surrounding?




could be malmö, lund, zurich, or every other city!






THE UNKNOWN
the rest of the world, in which the flaneur is forced into the role of
a simple tourist, i guess.




could be the rest of the planet!






tell me what you think, maybe someone else wants to draw a scheme too?










lily: i love your films/videos. they are so silent but explosive at
the same time. wow.
and your thoughts about the desert, which is not offering the
perfect picture to your camera.
i recently saw a film by wim wenders called "tokyo-ga", in the
beginning he is sitting in an airplane and says someting like this:
"why is it not possible that we can take pictures with a camera, in
the way we sometimes open our eyes? just looking, not wanting to
explain."

jorun: tell us about your exhibition!

gaby: what happened to the altar of revenge? maybe you could tell us
this story, if it is not too private...
i think it can also be connected to the flaneur topic, in a
way...
plus: would you like to come to the port o' brien concert with
me, thursday 22nd in stall 6? they're great!
if we dress up as sailors the entrance is only 15 fr. :)

susanne: are you still with us?




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